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Podcast Maligns Melania Trump as ‘Epstein Hooker’

Will the first lady begin lining up her lawyers?

Leesa K. Donner
Leesa K. Donner
Jul 26, 2026
Podcast Maligns Melania Trump as ‘Epstein Hooker’

Melania Trump — (Photo by Anna Rose Layden/Getty Images)

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4 Questions

The story, in brief

1What did Angie Sullivan and Jennifer Welch say about Melania Trump?

On their I've Had It podcast, Angie Sullivan and Jennifer Welch repeated claims that Melania Trump was connected to Jeffrey Epstein and Jennifer Welch said she believed Amanda Ngaro's allegation that Melania was a hooker passed on to Donald Trump. The piece says the accusation was baseless and defamatory. It also notes the podcast began with a broad anti-Republican tirade.

2Who is Lev Parnas in the accusations about Melania Trump and Jeffrey Epstein?

The podcast hosts used Lev Parnas as a source for the accusation. Parnas is described as a Russian-born minor player in the first Trump administration who later turned against Trump and promoted a conspiracy theory involving Melania Trump. He also alleged in a 2024 Politico interview that Donald and Melania Trump have a contract marriage.

3How has Melania Trump responded to Jeffrey Epstein claims about her?

In a public statement in April, Melania Trump said she was not a witness or named witness in any Epstein matter and that her name had never appeared in court documents, depositions, victim statements, or FBI interviews. She said she never had knowledge of Epstein's abuse, was never involved in any capacity, never flew on his plane, and never visited his private island. She also denied that Epstein introduced her to Donald Trump.

4Could Melania Trump sue the I've Had It podcast hosts next?

The story suggests she may take legal action because she has challenged defamatory claims before. It cites her successful defamation case against the Daily Mail, which ended in a $2.9 million settlement, and says her legal team also obtained public apologies from The Daily Beast and James Carville. It concludes that Sullivan and Welch may soon hear from the first lady's legal counsel.

The left can’t seem to leave Melania Trump alone. However, this isn’t Mrs. Trump’s first time in the glass cage of the White House, and she’s been signaling that anything defamatory will be challenged. Well, if that is true – and there’s no reason to doubt her – two women spouting off on a radical left podcast better lawyer up, as it’s likely that the first lady will come after them. What have they said that will get them into hot water? A lot.

On their I’ve Had It podcast, hosts Angie Sullivan and Jennifer Welch began by launching into an anti-Republican tirade. Curtis Houck, managing editor of the Newsbusters website, wrote on his X account, “Jennifer Welch says Republicans are ‘pathological liars’ as well as ‘morally inferior and morally depraved human beings’” who “want a system that’s rigged for white people.”

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In a somewhat confusing turn, the ladies then dove deep and “baselessly accused First Lady Melania Trump of having been a sex slave for disgraced child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein,” according to Houck. How did they come to this conclusion? The two female podcasters used American businessman Lev Parnas as the source for this wild accusation.

Parnas, a Russian-born minor player in the first Trump administration, became the poster child of a former Trump fan who caught a bad case of TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) and has been throwing bombs since the onset of his illness. The left has embraced Parnas’ conversion with media attention and more. In 2024, Rachel Maddow created a documentary on his life cleverly named “From Russia With Lev.” (A side note: Parnas is an independent candidate running for Congress in Florida’s 22nd district.)  One highlight of his transformation is zeroing in on a conspiracy theory about the first lady that ostensibly came from modeling agent Paolo Zampolli’s former long-term partner Amanda Ungaro. In a 2024 interview with Politico, Parnas tossed out this assessment of the Trump union. “It’s a contract marriage. Most oligarchs, they have the same thing,” he alleged.

Paolo Zampolli Enters Stage Left

But the tale is not done yet, and the accusation Parnas has been connected to — that Mrs. Trump was introduced to her husband by Jeffrey Epstein — has not yet come full circle unless you factor in former modeling agent Paolo Zampolli and Amanda Ungaro.

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The Italian-born Zampolli is credited as the man who introduced Trump to Melania. Ungaro and Melania reportedly maintained a friendship that eventually crumbled, and the fallout is so ugly that Ungaro has taken her poison keyboard to her X account and Mrs. Trump. In posts that have since been deleted but are still available if one digs deep enough, Ungaro mysteriously tapped out the following: “I will tear down your corrupt system, even if it’s the last thing I do in my life. I will go all the way — I am not afraid. Maybe you should be afraid of what I know …” Then she punctuated her point, “[B]e careful with me b****.”

Welch couldn’t resist the reference to Ungaro and spouted off: “Of course, Paolo Zampolli’s ex-wife (sic) Amanda Ungaro said that they met because Melania was a hooker and Epstein assigned and/or passed on Melania to Donald Trump.” Then she went on to say, “I tend to believe the ex-wife (sic) and let me tell you why. Because Melania did that bat-s*** crazy press conference out of the clear blue sky when nobody was asking what her interactions were with Jeffrey Epstein. She just volunteers all of this crazy as s***.”

Melania Defends Herself

In a public address back in April when all the Epstein files were released, Mrs. Trump went on record:

“I am not a witness or a named witness in connection with any of Epstein’s crimes. My name has never appeared in court documents, depositions, victim statements or FBI interviews surrounding the Epstein matter. I have never had any knowledge of Epstein’s abuse of his victims. I was never involved in any capacity — I was not a participant, was never on Epstein’s plane, and never visited his private island.”

The wife of the president also set the record straight by adamantly denying that Epstein introduced her to Donald Trump.

The British tabloid Daily Mail lost a defamation lawsuit that Melania Trump filed and won. She walked away with a $2.9 million settlement. Her legal team has also extracted public apologies from The Daily Beast, as well as Democratic strategist and sage James Carville. If history repeats itself, Sullivan and Welch will be hearing from the first lady’s legal counsel – and soon.  

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About the Author

Leesa K. Donner

Leesa K. Donner

Executive Editor

Leesa is the Executive Editor and Co-founder of Liberty Nation. She served as Editor-in-Chief of Liberty Nation from 2017 – 2024. Leesa spent over a decade in the broadcast news industry as a television news anchor, reporter, and producer at NBC, CBS, and FOX (formerly Metromedia) affiliates in Charlotte, Pittsburgh, and Washington, DC.
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